29) Varaha Upanishad The first one says that that Lord Siva saw seven women taking a bath in a river and decided to get them. The space or place name, time and person’s name will be explained first, while performing any rituals. 2) https://www.thiyyars.com Maniyanis(yadava) or Vaniyans are not a low caste or avarna caste (outcastes). If you read through the comments you can clearly see that its a comment war! Cultureless people. They were equally appealing in terms of complexion and physic too. 5) Kalpa shastram: Shouthasootram + Dharmasootram + Pitrumedhasootram+ Sulbhasootram+ Grahyasootram + Prayaschitham. I have friends and family who are a mix of upper and lower caste.But we don't think of ourselves as inferior or superior. 39) Shrimad Bhagawad Geeta with its explanation in Hindi, Saregama on YouTube. However you try, you cannot make a false as true. Finally, someone who is aware of what is happening around. We too had warriers, Ayurveda doctors and toddy tappers. He was the only person got his last pay, in his service as his pension after retirement from British Government. Earlier, Thiyya poojaris, karanavers and aged Thiyyas etc used to have kudumi (Hair at a little area in the back of head will not be cut, while hair cut. 9) Somhithopnished Brahmanam 27) www.IISH Download on Google for free down load or listening all 4 Vedas. 4) Atharva veda somhitha (contains 50 shakas or branches), 1) Ithereya Brahmanam They have migrated down south approx 25K to 30K (thousand) years back through North East valley. She refuses, thinking he has been gallivanting with some other lady. Thiyya groups is up to Cochi and during the fircull conversion of Tippu period many thiyya family have migrated to the shelter of the king of Travancore. 25% of the Kerala population is from this Eazhavar /Thiyyar community.They are known as Chovan ( cholan), Chekavar (warriors) or chekons in Kerala. “Thathwamasi” also have similar meaning. Nithinkuriyangara (talk) 17:40, 21 January 2014 (UTC), Belongings to Haplogroup L. So the total number of years after beginning of “the Day” (One Day of Brahma is equal to one Kalpa) of this Kalpa = A + B + C + D. The total Years after beginning of Brahma’s Day = A + B + C+ D = Dear Mr. Premdev, Hindu myths go back to billions of years. 7) Trishikhibrahmana Upanishad Earthen pots used to be provided by Koshavan (Nair) community. Kerala Christian ( N 9) : 48% South Indian, 34% baloch. 19) Thiyyasamskruti Mahabharata and Sreemad Bhagavat Geeta were written in 3140 BC. they have their own wikipedia . ***Breed Indo-Iranian (Tribes Simhala/Sinha/etc..Haplogroup H/I/J/K with K-M> >R/R1/ R1A/etc There were protracted discussions in early 2013 regarding the validity of hosting a separate page for Thiyya, the outcome of which was that current sources do not justify it. Have you read the comment above? They evolved flat mouths to eat the flattened fruits and lost their shells in the warm jungle. This would be a blend of Mythology and Haplogroup study of Tribes. Earlier, in each Thiyya house used to have a separate room called Chayipp. Think about the situation of the rest of the Hindus, if Ezhavas leave. I have seen a guy commit suicide when I was kid , because he could not finance his Medical college expenses. The jungle was dark causing their skin to become fair because they do not need melanin to protect themselves from the radiation of the sun rays. The north indian brahmins follow the vedas whereas the nampoothiris follow adi mimamsa which are rituals prior to the scripting of the vedas.Hence, the nampoothiris are in no way so called aryan (Aryan race itself is a myth)race & where never fair in complexion. So, there is no need for Africans to walk to India, populate it and then spread their genes, culture and language all over the world which sounds a bit illogical; why choose far away India to radiate out from. Thiyya used to performs Shastheya pooja, Vadakenbavu, akathu vechu kodukkal (a ritual to remember the ancestors) etc during Karkadaka vavu (Amavasya day of Karkadakam month) and in Tula vavu (Amavasya day of Tulam month) for their ancestors by the Aayyathar or by the family members at their home. It concludes that Thiyya is a peculiar community of Hindu religion, speaking Malayalam. Ezhava women address their Nair counterparts as ‘Thamburatti’ wheras the Tiyya or Cekon woman address Nair women as ' ammalakkan ' which denotes an amount of equality. 3 Yugas, namely, Krutha Yuga, Thretha Yuga and Dwapara Yuga are over, before the beginning of Kali Yuga. Thiyya comprise of about 70% population among Malayalam speaking Hindus in north Malabar region of Kerala state and about 80% of Malayalam speaking Hindus in Mahe in Pondicherry. Parakkandi Kavu, Kizhunna, Kannur, Kerala, India. Oh my dear god. Thandan and Thiyya castes. The song is more or less extem- pore, and each "side must be ready with an immediate answer. Think of your future. Shradhadeva Manu considered to be one of human survivors of great deluge & was counted as a Indo-Dravdian or Elamo Dravidian with a 7th mutation genealogy (Haplogroup -A to H), which largely found in Elam Iran, later in the course of deluge he sailed to Izham Srilanka Or Malaya mountain. Thank you, Rahul, for enlightening us. Thiyya is also spelled in English as Thiyya, Thiyyan, Thiyyas, Thiyyer, Theeyya, Theeyyar, Thiya, Tiya and Tiyya. used that thiyya is included in Ezhuva. Also they supported Naranya Guru and temple entry for lower caste. Nagavanshi (Nair) supported Parasurama in dealing with jungle and fighting the War over Ayrs of Haihaya (Thiyyars). 10) Kalagnirudra Upanishad 13) Shukarahasya Upanishad I am Thiyya but its the same.' This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Ezhava article. She offered boiled grams, slices of coconut, burnt fish and toddy to the Muthappan. One of such lineage originated from manu’s daughter ila’s marriage with Budha, who known as son of Soma or Chandra from the clan of Atri. After his death , people worshiped him as god in many parts of North Malabar . Now the valid successor of Thiyya community is makkathayam (own children). The illam system is (was) followed by many castes and tribes. Itty Achuthan was a famous chekava Vaidyar. If you are not aware, the Nair lady had to have sexual relationship with local Nambuthiri before she is married to a Nair. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love learning history, culture but attachment to one's caste could break Hinduism. Finally Parasuram killed Kartyaveerarjuna. Seriously? Indo-Aryan caucasian Class (Unlike ezhavas of haplogroup C australoids,Nairs of K and Namboothiris of H) from central Asian Thiyassa valley of Tia-Shan Mountain Ranges lying south of Russia to North Malabar. . Vedas and other 1280 basic authentic religious and scientific books of Hindus are given below: Hindus or Sanathana Dharma have as many as 1280 foundation religious literatures, about 10,000 commentaries written in Sanskrit language and about 1,00,000 sub commentaries , written in various other Indian languages. The population of Kerala, India is a heterogenous group that comprises many ethnic groups that originated in other parts of India as well as the world, with distinctive cultural and religious traditions. There is no reason why we would want to steal the identity which we are not even aware of in the first place. The shaft reached Parassini where the famous Parassini Temple stands today. Peetam for Theyyam and other wood work for Kavu and houses used to be provided by Aasari (Viswakarma) community. My great grandmother and cousins grandmother have grey green eyes. = (6 x 72 x 43,20,000) + (27 x 43,20,000) + (43,20,000 x ¾ ) + (5120) Years =1986125120 years. Many Theyyams rituals are performed by Malayar community, other Theyyems rituals are performed by Vannan community, Some Theyyems rituals are performed by Munnoottan community, and some other Theyyems rituals are performed by Anjhoottan communities etc. The big mansion which you see in Mohanlals movie where they potray Varikkasseri mana belongs to my cousin's grandfather's family. Hindus in my area are much more united that the North. I tried all sources to obtain a Community Certificate.... buy I couldn't.... thanks for confusing me . Again, Ezhava itself is not just one caste. In Malabar they are called Thiyya, while in Tulu Nadu they are known as Billavas.They were formerly known as ‘Ilavar’. There are so many religion as subsidiary of Hindu -Kush cultures were originated from Lunar Lineage, Viz: Shavism, shaminism, Jainism, Budhism, Thengrism,. Job cornered by ezhavas of thirucochi areas. Nair ennum paranj ang pongi kerathe,karyam illa. From other localities, one cannot get these community people, for which permission has to be obtained from local communities or through these locals only one can get the people from outside. If you want to talk about skin colour. He was a Thiyya. A similar looking house as Varikkasseri mana. I really don't understand why there is so much of pride they take in being from Greece or aryan breed. Rich people are everywhere not just in Kannur. if count population of all other illam community (from pulaya to Bahamian), together and compare still the count will be very less than thiyya population. I leaarned about Thiyyas when we registered for marriage. Thiyya Poojari (priest) perform daily pooja (rituals) at Thiyya Kavu or temple or madappura: The present Manwantara is 7th one, known as Vaivaswtha Manwantara. It’s interesting to note that Kerala has never followed the varna system of caste division. A request to all, Please dont fight among our selves. He had got a Government medical seat. None of these 3 vaniyans are low caste but malabar vaniya nairs are treated below nambiars in ritual rank because they had none to little sambandham relationships with namboothiris like nambiars had but when it comes to thekkan malabar that's kozhikode and below parts of kerala they are know as vattakkatu nairs and they had immense namboothiri &royal sambandham and they are part of today's nair community only. Nambiar ,Menon ,Kurup are sub castes of Nair. You should understand that Ezhava is a collection of many sub castes which had so many rich and poor people. But I wouldn't say 100%. are also worshipped by Thiyyer in the form of Theyyem. He is one of the Nayannars seen with a sword in all his statues. 9) Amruthanada Upanishad Now I see why my ancestors don't seek alliance from Thiyyas. The Thiyya King, Sri Kunhi Kelappan Mannanar, ruled north Kerala up to 1902. 'Cast and Tribes of Southern India'-Edgar Thurstan (Digitized version,Volume II,Page 394) says that 'Izhuvas' of Travancore(Not the Thiyyas) also have exogamous Illams(The names of four illams are also given). Then both bride and groom will sit in the mandapam for some time. why don't thiyya have one ? Thank you. Thiyya never ask or demand or give or take dowry in any form, during their marriage. They always stood as conflict lineage to suryavanshi and termed themselves as Chandravanshi or Lunar dynasty. That is their rights. 34) Aarya Bhateeya sankya (numbers) by Dr.N Gopalakrishnan, Scientist, on YouTube. Bronze items like Nilavilaku (lamps), kinnam, Uruli, kindi etc, (utensils) required for Thiyya used to be provided by Mooshari (Viswakarma) community. And so we were given this lower caste thing, as the upper castes considered us to be a threat to their government jobs, conversion of other people to Buddhism or whatever. He has also worked as newspaper reporter and associate editor for various newspapers in India. 28) Pranagnihothra Upanishad Once these, Intelligent Design, equivalent theories have been presented, the author kicks it up a notch and suggests that some people migrated from Kyrgyzstan in 7000 B.C to India. And there are people commenting on it like it is an article that deserve comments. Rituals performed are different for the ancestors for Vannaram and chavu. Even after being a part of SNDP, I am aware of many abused by Muslims and Christians. 4) Agniras lineage or Agnivanshi (This is a combination of Rishi Agniras+Bhrighu lineage, as it strengthened after parasuramas intervention) Veda followed was Atharva ..Breed Indo-Caucasian Haplogroup H/I/J/K with R1a1a1b1 and R2a2b2b2 subgroups People are going nuts about this caste thing. Oil required for the lamps and other use used to be provided by Vaniayar (Nair) community. 14) Mukthika Upanishad In the presence of muperium. So, If you can learn Sanskrit, it is easy to understand its correct meaning. Theyyam named, Vazhunnor (the king Mannanar) has been worshiped at Kunnathur padi in Kannur, Kerala, India once, in every year. They prostrated themselves in front of Him surrendering themselves to him. Thiyyars are cool people in my native vadakara.largly so friendly.unfortunately some of them are fooled by politics,leaders exploits them by murdering each other, I would like clarify the evolution of Thiyya, Nair and Izhavar Clans of Kerala to specify attributes of these clans with other Genealogical Lineages of this Hind-Kush region. It is the 13th most populous state in India with an overall population density of 2,200 people per square mile or 860 per square kilometer. The Ezhavas has a Singhalese origin. For all you know, Thiyyas might be from Kyrgyzstan. Kali calendar is for 60 years duration. 13) Savitri Upanisad Andalur Kavu, Andalur, Kannur, Kerala, India. Is Nair forward caste in kerala? Those days only two people owned cars. These Kazhakapura functions as court and the Karanvar (respected elder Thiyyer of the family), becomes the judge there, who gives solutions and clears all the disputes, within the family or with outsiders. Thiyya community also worship their Karanavanmar (great respected Thiyya elders), Gurukkanmar (Guru or teacher of Kalari), Vazhunnor (Thiyya king, named Mannanar), and other great Thiyya personalities in the form of their Theyyam. Bride will put flower garland to groom, accepting him as her husband. We hindus never help each other compared to christians and muslim community.The worst part is me being a thiyya have not got help from my thiyya relatives or community. Profile Created for Daughter. Lecture published on YouTube by Prakruti Mata on 5.11.2012. First of all Ezhava is like a conglomerate, not just one caste it is a combination of many castes! As per our myth Manu was accompanied with his wife, Seven Sages and their families. Ezhava,Mappilas,Chovan,Chon,PandyChon,Maravachon,Velankandi chon,Marvar-velan- Chozan,Vaaniya,Nair,Paraya,Pulaya did not have any illam as their origin . However, our ancestors were thoughtful enough to think of other poor people who faced injustice at that time. Tienshan+Ayrs become = ThiAyrs > thiyyars…Some text says Thira+ Ayrs also. Kubera clan was known as Yakshas and Yakshis..There were few other tribal lineage evolved through Sage Bhrigu, which was known as Agni Vanshi. 11) Kshurika Upanishad 7) Rama - Rama was about 13 feet tall dark-skinned person. Note most Christians and Muslims are from these castes. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. I don't know about your local area. The SC/ST sector are struggling so bad because of the injustice that they faced in the past. Adding Thiyya to Ezhava doesn't give us any benefits at all! Kerala has an estimated population of 35 million, up from 33.38 million in 2011. Click here to start a new topic. Malayalam wikipedia page are seperate for thiyyar and ezhavar Elites among them had titles of Channan or panikkan. 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